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Michael McAuliffe's avatar

Listening was probably a great contribution. If you would have been able to provide any contrary thoughts, would it have softened any hearts? Would it have caused any changed opinions?

Wilderness. Is it within or without? Whatever it means!

Michael McAuliffe

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Mary Ann Dimand's avatar

Your combinations of these things: conservative/MAGA and liberal USians views of each other, their views on policy-related topics, and modern human pleasure in seeing "charismatic animals" seem to me linked by our current USian floundering between stereotypical fictions and vivid living beings.

If you had told those men "I agree," I suspect that they would have assumed that your politics were theirs. But if they had known that your politics were not theirs, they might well not have heard you, because of the fictional version of liberals current in MAGA world. While from your side, you were grateful to hear grounds for possible real conversation despite the dismissive liberal stereotypes about MAGAs.

Within the example you gave, the hope you found was in the man who recognized the existence of immigrants who actually exist, decent people crossing the border to seek work, join and support community, and not fictional insect-like swarming immigrant bogypersons.

And as for many animals, we have distanced ourselves from so many, and seldom think about them, or think of them in Yogi Bear terms-- but there they are! Living, and going about their business with awesome self-possession. (For some reason we find it harder to rejoice the living presence of ants and squirrels, preferring to view them purely instrumentally, categorically stereotyping them.)

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